Does The Secret Work For Someone Who Doesn’t Accept Jesus
The Secret, Christianity and Jesus … Does it work the same for non-believers?
As many of my regular readers will know, I am a born again Christian, have been now for 35 years, and I often get questions about The Secret and Christianity. Some Christians have labelled The Secret as a New Age demonic production and have spoken ill against every person on it. This is a showing of their ignorance as a Christian and of the bible.
There are certainly some aspects of The Secret DVD and The Secret book which are incorrect according to the bible and I’m happy to share that with anyone who asks. I believe that the bible is 100% true so to debate otherwise with me is a waste of time. I do respect other’s beliefs and do not think any less of a person if they choose to think or believe contrary to my beliefs, I just don’t waste time debating what I have proven to myself to be the truth. That said, let me get to the point!
I receive many questions from Christian believers and non-believers alike about the workings of the universal laws.
Here is an email I just received asking if The Secret by Rhonda Byrne works the same for a Christian and non-Christian, which caused me to write this blog:
“Hi David, I was at your Seminar April 3rd in Phoenix AZ. I have a question.
Like gravity, Universal Laws work for everyone equally regardless of religion, right? So then, a person NOT accepting Jesus can get the same benefits from applying the SECRET? – Or will they only get particle benefits? Are the benefits the same whether a person accepts Jesus in their lives or not? Is there a difference?
If so, what is it. I am baffled over this.”
Great question! Let me first briefly clarify something for those who may not believe in Christianity or understand it.
A “Christian” is someone who believes in their heart and has confessed with their mouth that Jesus Christ is the Son of the one living God and that the same Jesus died for the sins of all mankind and was raised from the dead that we might be saved (set free from the curse brought about because of Adam’s disobedience that keeps a person from communicating directly with God.) Romans 10:9-10 A Christian believes every Word of God (the bible) is true. A “Christian” is NOT someone who quotes scripture or says “Yes, I believe in a god and that Jesus was a good man/prophet written about a couple of thousand years ago.”
Back to answering the question!!
- A physical law (like gravity) works for and on everything in the physical realm;
- a mental or ‘soul’ law works for and on everything in the mental or soul realm;
- a spiritual law works for and on everything in the spiritual realm.
A human being is a spiritual being, with a soul (mind) living in a physical body … therefore we are subject to the laws in each realm of existence.
When someone is not a Christian they are ‘dead’ in spirit … which means they cannot communicate (fellowship) with God, the creator of all the universe and the creator of all laws! Adam, by his spiritual disobedience in the garden of Eden severed fellowship with our creator. The bible tells us that God created man in His own image (spiritually) and for the sole purpose of fellowship with Him. God is all love and all truth and cannot fellowship with sin.
When man fell out of fellowship with the Creator it must have been God’s greatest grief … because then God gave His only Son Jesus as a gift to His creation (us) to open the door of fellowship. Jesus said “The only way to my Father is through me.” Jesus, by His life, death and resurrection wiped the disobedience (sin) slate clean for all mankind past, present and future. Sin no longer keeps us from communicating with God … the only thing that keeps a person from fellowship with their Creator is the acceptance of His Son, Jesus.
A non-Christian will say “I mediate and fellowship with my god/the universe/universal consciousness etc.” The bible says you cannot communicate/fellowship with the one true living God accept you first accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour. A non-believer is actually fellowshipping with their own soul (mental ascension) and other spirit beings not God. Don’t get mad at me for saying that, that’s what the bible says!
The Law of Attraction (The Secret DVD) is a ‘soul’ law.
The bible says the soul is the mind (conscious mind), the will and the emotions (subconscious mind or ‘heart’). The Law of Attraction is based on one renewing their mind to the things that are good and acceptable and perfect will of God … not bad, unacceptable and imperfect (Romans 12:2). What is the good and acceptable and perfect will of God?
Deuteronomy 28:1-14 tells us exactly … it starts off saying “If you will listen diligently to the voice of the Lord your God …” God tells us what is ours … but it is up to us to renew our subconscious mind. God can’t do that for us, we were created like God, with a free will and the ability to choose. We can choose poverty and lack, or we can choose abundance and prosperity; we can choose sickness and disease or we can choose health and vitality; we can choose to be dead in spirit (out of fellowship with God) or we can choose to be in fellowship with Him – God will not deny us those choices! It is up to us, not Him.
Some people, even many Christians say, “If God wants me to be rich or healthy then He will make me.” No!!! God will never make you do or be anything, that’s up to you.
Others will say, “God is ALL POWERFUL so He can do anything!” The bible doesn’t say that!
Others say that, “God is everywhere at once therefore He is in me and I am God.” No, No. No!! That is a very warped understanding of the spiritual realm and of God. The bible says that God is ever present but nowhere does it say that He is everywhere – very different. And God cannot be in someone who does not accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour – it is spiritually illegal and impossible.
Are the benefits the same whether a person accepts Jesus in their lives or not?
Absolutely … the benefits are massively different. The Law of Attraction works the same for a believer and a non-believer as it is a law on the soul realm, we have control of our own minds not God.
The difference is that:
- A believer has the Word of God and all His promises. There are some 3000 promises in the bible for the believer that a non-believer doesn’t have access to.
- A believer knows a peace and fulfillment that surpasses all mental understanding – something a non-believer cannot even comprehend. (Phil 4:7)
- A believer has the power of God working in them to carry out super-abundantly, far over and above all that we dare ask or think, infinitely beyond our highest prayers, desires, thoughts, hopes or dreams. (Eph 3:20)
- A believer has the Holy Spirit as the Comforter in difficult times.
- A believer has the Word of God that, when spoken aloud, NEVER goes out and returns void.
- For a believer, All things are possible through Jesus Christ.
- A believer has direct access to God and all His wisdom!! (James 1:5)
- A believer has a personal relationship with God.
- A believer has the protection of angels. (Ps 91:11-12)
- A believer has access to super-natural (spiritual) faith. (Mark 11:23)
- A believer has God as our shepherd to lead, guide and shield, so that they will know no lack. (Ps 23:1)
- A believer sits spiritually at the right hand of God and has direct access to His throne room to ask or talk about anything and get advice for any concern.
I can go on and on and on … The difference is so great, so massive that it is hard to comprehend why someone would not accept Jesus into their life. True Christianity is a lifestyle and freedom that cannot be achieved by any other means. The condition for all the above it that one MUST BELIEVE!
One must believe in Jesus and that every Word of God is true – speak what God says about you is true. Then a world of infinite possibilities, beyond our imagination, opens up for us.
The Law of Attraction is great and allows us to achieve much by controlling our human mind; the Law of Attraction with Jesus is so much better that words cannot describe!
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This was a great read.
The Law of Attraction works on FAITH. I as a human doing, would have a challenge having the kind of Faith required to manifest the life I desire. God gives me that Faith. That is the difference for me. I KNOW. I rest in ABSOLUTE knowing that all things will work to my good and therefore, I don’t worry. (worry=attracting what I don’t want). I feel supported, loved, and safe. I have peace and can rest in the knowing that it is ALREADY done. If I didn’t have that kind of faith and relied solely on myself, I could imagine attracting all kinds of things I didn’t want into my life. Human’s are human….I might get really good at “The Power of Positive Thinking”…but that has never been enough for me. I want all that I have been Promised.
I attended David’s seminar in NY and have to say that it reaffirmed and reignited me…and the Revelations were AMAZING!
Hi David
I just have a few issues with your post. First I would just like to say that I am a fan of your workshops and material and believe that it is a noble job to increase the quality of peoples lives for a living!
I am however shocked to hear you say that if you are not Christan you are spiritually dead. Is this suggesting that the 1.5 approx Muslims for example living in the world today are spiritually dead? That the miracles they experience from God are fake and their prayers are in fact unheard because they cannot communicate with God??
I have attended your seminars and heard you say that whether you are a scientist or religious that the creator of the world is all the same.. whether you call it energy or God.. Do your beliefs now mean that this is infact invalid and that God is not energy but a supernatural being of some sort? Cause I got the opposite impression at your seminar a few years ago. Unless your views have changed…
Thanks so much
Hey David, Brilliant! Straight from the bible!! I haven’t heard the law of attraction expalined like that, that it’s the soul releam that it works in. Thanks for taking the time to share it with us.
Hi, thanks for your comment and question.
No, my belief has not changed, if anything it is much clearer. I did clarify in my blog what I meant when i said “spiritually dead” and that I based my belief on the bible. Spiritually dead does not mean that a people has no spirit or that God cannot hear them … the Greek translation from the bible tell us that it means a person cannot fellowship with Elohim (God). I can’t answer that question for a Muslim, Hindi, Buddhism, Atheist or anyone else because their belief as to what is truth is not based on the bible. I respect their belief however it is not mine.
I say in my seminars that you can call God what you like, I call the creator of the universe God and I choose to have a personal relationship with Him. If someone chooses to call Him energy or Allah or universal consciouses that is their choice. I have always believed that God is a deity, in fact that consists of God the Father, God the Son & God the Holy Ghost – which I have believed is far more than simply energy or consciousness or the universe.
I do know that there is only one way to have a personal relationship with God and then come into fellowship with Him, and that is through His Son Jesus Christ. So what you call the creator of the universe is quite irrelevant. If you only know God from a scientists perspective, energy, then you have no personal relationship with the creator … it is impersonal … there is no relationship therefore there can not be fellowship. For example, it you know of John Smith but you don’t know him, you cannot have a relationship or fellowship with him. If John Smith was your father then you have been born into a relationship with him and you can (if you choose) has fellowship with John Smith. If you don’t believe the John Smith exists, even if he was your father, your belief would prevent any fellowship.
I trust this helps.
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God Being all knowing doesnt give a shit what you call it… law of attrction/Faith/mind powers, please,,, if a man has ears to hear, let him hear. ye are gods and all of you are children of the most high. google any of these words and it will come up with scripture. let me know how you go!!!!
The Secret is definetly not evil. It is full of principles that God has put in place for everyone’s benefit. Of course the greatest thing we can experience is a life filled with an intimate relationship with God. I have been a Christian for a very long time when I first watched The Secret. I had been in a rut for sometime. When I watched The Secret, it sparked something inside me. I thank God for the movie and am grateful to the people who were a part of it. It also inspired me to write a book about Grace and Faith. It also gave me the opportunity to actually meet David Schirmer and his lovely wife Lorna. I feel truly feel very blessed because of The Secret.
Keep posting stuff like this i really like it
I have been a Christian all my adult life (I’m now 73). Since I retired from my working life as a schoolteacher and minister some 15 years ago and found myself entering the financial markets, for me it has been nothing but lose, lose,lose. My wife and I have lost about half of our retirement savings, including money gained from the sale of a block of land which I loved near our then home in the mountains. I will grieve for this land as long as I live. Time and time again I have entered into funds or shares that have been performing at wonderful levels with great returns, only to see them drop significantly as soon as I enter – this has happened in a way that is uncanny. My commitment to Christ had of itself cost me quite a lot as life progressed, including when I went into ministry. I have recently become involved in various humanitarian/Christian work in Cambodia, as well as supporting orphans and other children in a number of countries around the world. However, my financial losses have now meant that this activity has to be curtailed. On the one hand I have been a fool with money and on the other I have had some unbelievable bad luck (on the law of averages you’d think that once in a while something would work out – but not so). So I must say that I am wondering about this doctrine of God’s blessing in material ways. What has happened to me I wonder?
Len Martin
nice post. thanks.
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Well then… Now that changes everything from my mind and thoughts! Before I did not belive in god but I began to doubt that there was a Jesus. Now I belive in god and I belive in Jesus! Ty miss Rhonda! you are verry nice to share all the things you share whit others! 0:)
this post is very usefull thx!
“And God cannot be in someone who does not accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour – it is spiritually illegal and impossible.”
What about muslims, hebrews, buddhists, hindus…and other faithful peoples who do not believe in Jesus, but they believe in a God.
Zou can not say that God cannot be in them just because they have born and raise in other religion, other than christianity…
Right?
Dear David
It is so sad that you feel that only christianity isthe only religion in the world that is full of spirituality, i think you are misinformed I am a hindu and i believe that god is every where and he manifests to you in the way you want him to. Being a hindu i have visited many churches but honestly will a christian do that? Because hinduism is a way of life it teaches you how to lead life properly,and i am sure it does not make a difference to christ whether he is a hindu or a muslim or a christian, because god does not have a form he his every where and he manifests in the way you want to see him. reading the book secret has given me certain insights into being positive and i am sure the law of attration that the book talks about is for every individual in the universe, the book talks about energy channalised in the right direction it does not say that it is only for the believers, i mean christians, i am a believer too but a proud HINDU.
David, this is incredibly well written and thought out. In fact, I’m blown away. In our time together in Glazer Mastermind, I never knew your position on this stuff. Love to catch up. It’s outstanding. Bob and I may want to post some of this on our site, http://www.ChristianBusinessDaily.com
Best,
Matt
The Secret does not work. PERIOD.